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HSBC expert and Fed projections agree: Interest rates to stay low despite hikes

  • Interest rates and bond yields are likely to remain low for longer despite recent hikes.

  • HSBC's Steven Major has long predicted low rates would persist. He still sees a "lower for longer" environment.

  • Fed's own projections and models suggest policymakers agree rates won't stay high.

  • Massive debt levels will keep rates depressed as it is "unproductive" debt.

  • Other forces like aging populations that reduce growth remain in place. Rates may fall as economy slows.

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### Summary The recent market sell-off and rising yields are not driven by rising inflation expectations but by rising real yields across the world, signaling a return to pre-Global Financial Crisis conditions. ### Facts - Real bond yields are returning to their natural state as the easy credit environment since the Global Financial Crisis is reversing. - Rising inflation expectations typically drive yields, but the recent market sell-off is caused by rising yields for long-term rates. - Central banks are hiking rates and removing liquidity, reducing the supply of credit and raising interest costs. - Rising demand for capital and geopolitical tensions are also contributing to the rise in yields. - Market conditions now are more like they used to be before the Global Financial Crisis, while the post-2008 to 2022 era was the unusual period. - Rising real rates are expected to impact public spending, household borrowing, and asset values, while pensions and savers may benefit. - The return to positive real yields is a big shift closer to the historical baseline. - Despite recession talk, there are few signs of a recession in the US, with GDP growth forecasted at 5.8% for Q3. ### Emoji - 💸 The era of cheap debt might be over, and it can lead to a big shift for investors. - 💰 Real bond yields are returning to their natural state. - 📉 Rising yields for long-term rates are driving the recent market sell-off. - 🌍 Real yields are rising across the world. - 📉 The conditions we're seeing now are more like they used to be before the global economy imploded. - 🏢 Assets boosted by easy credit will need to correct, including real estate. - 💼 Rising real rates will impact public spending, household borrowing, and asset values. - 💡 Pensions and savers may benefit from a rising real rate environment. - 📉 Excess speculation can easily occur if stability requires pursuing significant risk. - 🚀 The return to positive real yields is a big shift closer to the historical baseline. - 🔍 Few signs of a recession in the US, with 5.8% GDP growth forecasted for Q3.
### Summary The S&P 500 returns over the last one, five, and ten years are only slightly above their long-term averages, suggesting that the stock market is not unanchored from reality. However, the performance of long-term US Treasuries has been poor, with even 10-year Treasuries resulting in losses over the last five years. Slower economic growth may be on the horizon, but it remains uncertain whether it will be enough to bring down inflation rates. ### Facts - The S&P 500 returns over the last one, five, and ten years are only slightly above their long-term averages. - The performance of long-term US Treasuries has been weak, resulting in losses for investors even after accounting for coupon payments. - Slower economic growth may be on the horizon, but it remains uncertain if it will bring down inflation rates. - The nature of the stock market rally suggests that investors are still searching for buying opportunities rather than thinking about selling. - Energy, industrials, and financials have become favored sectors, while technology stocks have started to decline. - The Chinese economy is struggling, with retail sales and industrial production growth slowing down. - The Federal Reserve has expressed concerns about inflation but also noted downside risks to the economy. ###
### Summary Investors are looking to put their cash into junk assets as fears of a severe US recession recede, leading to increased demand for high-yield markets and borrowers taking advantage of refinancing and amend-and-extend transactions. ### Facts - There is an excess demand for high-yield markets due to limited issuance, resulting in borrowers having more flexibility through refinancing and amend-and-extend transactions. - The amount of high-yield credit due in 2025 has decreased by almost 12% since the start of 2023. - US GDP growth is expected to increase, leading to Morgan Stanley lowering its base case for US junk and loan spreads. - Safer companies are holding back from taking advantage of the rally, anticipating lower borrowing costs in the future. - Risk appetite has softened due to concerns over higher interest rates, leading to a two-speed economy and potential challenges for companies with high levels of leverage. - The private credit market set a record with the largest loan in its history, and several other notable financial transactions have taken place in the week. - There have been personnel changes in various financial institutions, including Credit Suisse, Canada's Bank of Nova Scotia, and Santander.
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